you can be a student at uc berkeley, foreign born. get this wonderful education. microsoft offers you a job for over $100,000 a year and we have to say if the country will keep you. and most of those students are told they can't stay. get out of the united states. >> get out of the united states. he wants to change that. and he -- you know, he also is very passionate in his foundation, very passionate about education reform in the united states and measuring results in the u.s. and getting american kids up to snuff on science, technology, engineering, math. he'd like to take the money people pay for the visa to work here, take that money, put it into science and math education in the u.s. so we're growing talent and importing talent at the same time. it's vital to the economy. >> it will be very interesting to see where that goes and if you can do that. there are so many educational systems where math and science is failing or doesn't even exist for students. >> another interesting thing he said, he said that this discussion about highly skilled workers has been h